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it is not just john mccain and lindsey graham. there are others raising questions about the potential for susan rice to be elevated to secretary of state. they have serious questions they say while the president says that susan rice was giving information given to her by the intelligence community, the questions these republicans are asking include why did the station chief in benghazi report in realtime, they say, it was a terrorist attack right away? there is a definite disagreement about the facts and question of republicans why susan rice was put in this question. they say as u.n. ambassador, why was she the spokesperson on the issue of benghazi in the first place and appeared on the morning shows as you discussed. senators point out it's their constitutional role to advise and consent on the nominations and push back when they see fit. they said what about condaleeza rice? wasn't that disqualifying and those was -- that was a different time and other countries agreed with the u.s. at that time that there was a danger of weapo
it is not just john mccain and lindsey graham. there are others raising questions about the potential for susan rice to be elevated to secretary of state. they have serious questions they say while the president says that susan rice was giving information given to her by the intelligence community, the questions these republicans are asking include why did the station chief in benghazi report in realtime, they say, it was a terrorist attack right away? there is a definite disagreement about the...
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and lindsey graham is his mini me. what's going on here is that they had a theory, a conspiracy theory about libya. mitt romney tried to elaborate it in the second debate. he got slapped down. couldn't even talk about it in the third debate. the more we learn about this, the more we learn that this was a very standard procedure in terms of reaction. you put out there what you can put out there. you don't put out there things that would reveal sources and methods of intelligence or minimize the chances that you would catch someone. one of the things that's most disturbing about this, ed, once again, you have the republicans going after an african-american. we saw it with eric holder, we're seeing it with susan rice. it's the same old politics they've played since 1968 in the southern strong and it's not about national security, it's about politics. >> well, let's throw in shirley sherrod's name, and also, there have been a number of others out there as well. tara, are mccain and graham not giving up on libya because the
and lindsey graham is his mini me. what's going on here is that they had a theory, a conspiracy theory about libya. mitt romney tried to elaborate it in the second debate. he got slapped down. couldn't even talk about it in the third debate. the more we learn about this, the more we learn that this was a very standard procedure in terms of reaction. you put out there what you can put out there. you don't put out there things that would reveal sources and methods of intelligence or minimize the...
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graham from john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte after their meeting with ambassador rice. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than before. >> i'm more troubled today. >> senator mccain's embarrassing past with libya includes a meeting in tripoli in 2009 with gadhafi to discuss the possible delivery of military equipment to that dictator at his side at that meeting, as usual of course, was lindsey graham. also joining him was senator joe lieberman. today sh after meeting with ambassador rice, joe lieberman chose not to join the baseless criticism of ambassador rice. >> based on what she has said as clearly as possible, backed up by the director of the cia, i think it wouldn't be fair to disqualify her based on what she said. >> ambassador rice released this statement after meeting with the republican senators. while we certainly wish we had >> ambassador rice released this statement after meeting with the republican senators. joining me now, msnbc's karen finney and howard fineman. howard, what is your un
graham from john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte after their meeting with ambassador rice. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than before. >> i'm more troubled today. >> senator mccain's embarrassing past with libya includes a meeting in tripoli in 2009 with gadhafi to discuss the possible delivery of military equipment to that dictator at his side at that meeting, as usual of course, was...
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mike rogers has questions, lindsey graham. i believe the administration if it has as strong a case as it does, secretary clinton should brief them in private, public would be better, she would make more progress in private, to let them know what the facts are. >> chris cizilla, what about hillary clinton trying to put this to rest for the administration when, in fact, she could have testified in the first place or not testified, could have come on the sunday talk shows but it was not something she does and it was a hot potato and the white house seemed eager to put susan rice in that seat. >> i agree totally. i think mark is right, that the right thing probably to do is more information is better than less information on this topic. i watch "meet the press" yesterday, i watched your reaction after mike rogers. i had a similar reaction. kind of throwing that allegation of maybe the president knew without any evidence behind that claim, is particularly when it relates to foreign policy this is a serious charge here. i would say
mike rogers has questions, lindsey graham. i believe the administration if it has as strong a case as it does, secretary clinton should brief them in private, public would be better, she would make more progress in private, to let them know what the facts are. >> chris cizilla, what about hillary clinton trying to put this to rest for the administration when, in fact, she could have testified in the first place or not testified, could have come on the sunday talk shows but it was not...
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lindsey graham is utterly terrified as the senior senator from alabama against someone. i'm not surprised by something like that. the question is if they want tovp an investigation, vote to have one. let's have the investigation, and shut the hell up until the investigation is final and done. then if there's a problem, say there's a problem. >> quickly, rachel, can they get to the bottom of who changed the talking points? is that something -- again, i was watching "morning joe," and there was a difference of opinion if you can pinpoint that kind of information. >> i think they'll keep asking questions until they do get an answer. i think it is likely that more information will emerge about this. you know, the controversy over susan rice is so particularly interesting because the charges that are flying around have gotten so personal. we heard the president call out senators mccain and graham by name at the news conference last week and saying if you want to come after someone, come after me. they answered by saying, all right, mr. president, we'll come after you. >> than
lindsey graham is utterly terrified as the senior senator from alabama against someone. i'm not surprised by something like that. the question is if they want tovp an investigation, vote to have one. let's have the investigation, and shut the hell up until the investigation is final and done. then if there's a problem, say there's a problem. >> quickly, rachel, can they get to the bottom of who changed the talking points? is that something -- again, i was watching "morning joe,"...
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. >> what's so interesting, lindsey graham was on, and he was talking about immigration. i got to play his comment, and i want your thoughts on the other side of it. let's play it, please. >> it's one thing to shoot yourself in the foot. just don't reload the gun. i intend not to reload this gun whether it comes to hispanic. i intend to tear down this wall and pass an immigration reform bill that's an american solution to an american problem, but we have nobody to blame but ourselves when it comes to losing hispanics. >> i intend to tear this wall down, and it's an american solution to an american problem. where were those comments during the republican primary when governor rick perry was all but run off the stage. again, this was before he couldn't name the three agencies that he would eliminate. where was this sentiment then, and will it work on latino voters? >> well, i think that sent want was certainly behind the scenes. you had moderate republicans cheering rick perry because of his approach to latinos in texas, his familiarity with that important group. again, he
. >> what's so interesting, lindsey graham was on, and he was talking about immigration. i got to play his comment, and i want your thoughts on the other side of it. let's play it, please. >> it's one thing to shoot yourself in the foot. just don't reload the gun. i intend not to reload this gun whether it comes to hispanic. i intend to tear down this wall and pass an immigration reform bill that's an american solution to an american problem, but we have nobody to blame but...
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it was with senators lindsey graham and kelly ayotte and john mccain. >> they were upset. john mccain over the weekend backed up a little. >> he backed up. >> which is really cool. she went up and said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to address this. >> how did that work? >> she talked about her initial account of the attack. she explained to them that she was relying on faulty intelligence, faulty talking points from the intelligence communities. >> and they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> go to video. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed than i was before. if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> i am more troubled today knowing, having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice.
it was with senators lindsey graham and kelly ayotte and john mccain. >> they were upset. john mccain over the weekend backed up a little. >> he backed up. >> which is really cool. she went up and said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to address this. >> how did that work? >> she talked about her initial account of the attack. she explained to them that she was relying on faulty intelligence, faulty talking points...
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it's lindsey graham and he is most likely going to attract a primary challenger. this is not without risk but it's significant. it's not only the senators. you have senator coburn and saying it won't be terrible to raise taxes on the rich. i think we are starting to see a shift. the key is, is it just reductions or will some be willing to raise tax rates on the wealthy? that is going to be the real sticking point and ed, you heard what congressman king said. he said, look, it all has to be on the table. then you have speaker boehner saying that he wants obama care on the table in the fiscal cliff negotiations in reality will that be on the table, obama care in. >> you know, this is a a genius move by republicans. they wanted to repeal obama care. they would have done it had mitt romney been elected and they can't do that. boehner has said repealing it entirely is a moot issue. but getting some concessions is probably the way to do it. in part because there are democrats who agree that changes should be made and even the president has said that it's not a perfect l
it's lindsey graham and he is most likely going to attract a primary challenger. this is not without risk but it's significant. it's not only the senators. you have senator coburn and saying it won't be terrible to raise taxes on the rich. i think we are starting to see a shift. the key is, is it just reductions or will some be willing to raise tax rates on the wealthy? that is going to be the real sticking point and ed, you heard what congressman king said. he said, look, it all has to be on...
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you've got lindsey graham trying to say something happened in this meeting to make the situation worse. what could that have been? >> well, from talking to a top official in the white house and to senator mccain, behind closed doors, the meeting wasn't as contentious as those statements after ward made it sound. at least as regard to ambassador rice. i think both sides agree that there are legitimate questions to be asked about the timeline of what happened in benghazi. about the state of knowledge at the time, about security protections and so forth, but as far as holding ambassador rice personally accountable for the incomplete and in some cases wrong story she gave on five different shows that sunday, i don't think that behind closed doors the republican senators were going after her personally. they came out afterwards and made it sound like the grave matter it was involving her. i don't think that's where they're at behind closed doors. >> let's listen to president obama on november 14th. about the senator's attacks on ambassador rice. >> when they go after the u.n. ambassador, ap
you've got lindsey graham trying to say something happened in this meeting to make the situation worse. what could that have been? >> well, from talking to a top official in the white house and to senator mccain, behind closed doors, the meeting wasn't as contentious as those statements after ward made it sound. at least as regard to ambassador rice. i think both sides agree that there are legitimate questions to be asked about the timeline of what happened in benghazi. about the state of...
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john mccain and lindsey graham know this is much ado about nothing. are there legitimate questions to ask, bureaucratic questions about how information moves up the chain of command? of course. there always are in these sorts of situations. especially when they're tragic like this. but does that mean it's some sort of scandal, you know, watergate style cover-up or there was an effort to have people, quote, stand down in the fashion of terrorism? it's ridiculous. >> it's worth mentioning the president at the press conference made it clear that four americans did lose their lives and he's deeply concerned about that. and we all should be. but republicans e especially senators mccain and graham, have been beating up on u.n. ambassador susan rice every single day for the last two months. and the president stood up to that bullying today. take a listen. >> to bring those who carried it out to justice. they won't get any debate from me on that. but when they go after the u.n. ambassador, apparently because they think she's an easy target, then they've got a
john mccain and lindsey graham know this is much ado about nothing. are there legitimate questions to ask, bureaucratic questions about how information moves up the chain of command? of course. there always are in these sorts of situations. especially when they're tragic like this. but does that mean it's some sort of scandal, you know, watergate style cover-up or there was an effort to have people, quote, stand down in the fashion of terrorism? it's ridiculous. >> it's worth mentioning...
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i'm certain my colleague from new hampshire, and of lindsey graham. so i do believe that it's in the country's interest to give her a fair hearing and to let her explain the situation, the position that she took on benghazi. >> senator, good to have you on the program. thank you. >> nice to be with you. >> let's go back to the strategy on the part of the white house. and obviously we're in this mess because they couldn't make a deal the last time. if the president's backup strategy is, and susan, this is what the l.a. times is reporting that they have to go off the fiscal cliff, they're willing to paint the gop as villains. i'm wondering about that strategy and does it appeal to moderate americans who clearly just want something done? >> well, you know, every time we do a poll and talk to americans, they say they want a deal, want both sides to compromise, to give a little. and i wonder to what degree the white house saying they are willing to go off the fiscal cliff is a, you know, a strategy that you would have right at this point to hold the feet t
i'm certain my colleague from new hampshire, and of lindsey graham. so i do believe that it's in the country's interest to give her a fair hearing and to let her explain the situation, the position that she took on benghazi. >> senator, good to have you on the program. thank you. >> nice to be with you. >> let's go back to the strategy on the part of the white house. and obviously we're in this mess because they couldn't make a deal the last time. if the president's backup...
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>> senator john mccain and senator lindsey graham said today they want watergate-style hearings on the attack on the consulate in benghazi. >> i want to ask about the families of four killed. >> general petraeus is where we begin at the white house. i guess it's a good bet they would be coming up today. >> reporter: yeah. you saw the ap ask it. it didn't dominate as much as we thought. our friends at telemundo asked a question and coming back on immigration. he talked about the fiscal cliff. he laid down the law you saw him there. he wants the tax cuts extended for everybody under $250,000 and got to general petraeus and this whole intertwined story with benghazi, that's when it got really rough. the president took out after republicans namely john mccain and lindsey graham for the criticism leveled at susan rice. the u.n. secretary, shortly after the attacks that resulted in the death of four americans, she went on "meet the press" and other sunday shows and said what happened in benghazi was the result of a spontaneous protest that morphed in to something else and resulted in the dea
>> senator john mccain and senator lindsey graham said today they want watergate-style hearings on the attack on the consulate in benghazi. >> i want to ask about the families of four killed. >> general petraeus is where we begin at the white house. i guess it's a good bet they would be coming up today. >> reporter: yeah. you saw the ap ask it. it didn't dominate as much as we thought. our friends at telemundo asked a question and coming back on immigration. he talked...
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earlier today she met with senators john mccain, kelly ayotte and lindsey graham. this meeting with senator lieberman approximately if it started on time, it was set to start around 2:00 eastern time. we got this video in. about a 20 minute or maybe less meeting. we'll hopefully have more insight in the latest meeting centering around the investigation of the deadly attack in the consulate in benghazi. in an hour president obama meeting with mexico's president-elect at the white house to discuss border security, immigration and trade. we'll get a preview. a record powerball jackpot soars higher for tomorrow night's big drawing. we'll tell you how much it's worth now. it's a story around the "news nation" for you. check out the tumblr page. you find behind the scenes pictures. we have to update the picture, because today -- tomorrow they reveal the big tree. that scaffolding is no longer up. we'll take a new picture and have it updated for you in the break. oh, let me guess --ou see this? more washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up
earlier today she met with senators john mccain, kelly ayotte and lindsey graham. this meeting with senator lieberman approximately if it started on time, it was set to start around 2:00 eastern time. we got this video in. about a 20 minute or maybe less meeting. we'll hopefully have more insight in the latest meeting centering around the investigation of the deadly attack in the consulate in benghazi. in an hour president obama meeting with mexico's president-elect at the white house to...
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and lindsey graham needs to give it up too. and they need to suck it up and start to work across the aisle like they have in the past, and show some basic respect for the president of the united states. >> i mean, this is the first shot over the bow, as to how the next congress is going to feel about one another. i mean, do you think mccain and graham would have the troops to stop her if she does, and the president says today he hasn't made that determination yet, whether he's going to nominate her or not. do you think they have the chops to do that? >> sure. in the senate, it only takes a couple of people to filibuster. and then there aren't the 60 votes. and if they go through with this, if they don't back down, it will be hard for her to get confirmed. that's the reality of the u.s. senate. so it seems to me and i think a lot of other people that the president and senator mccain need to get together, you know, not have a beer summit, maybe drink something harder, and, you know, try to work this out and establish some kind of
and lindsey graham needs to give it up too. and they need to suck it up and start to work across the aisle like they have in the past, and show some basic respect for the president of the united states. >> i mean, this is the first shot over the bow, as to how the next congress is going to feel about one another. i mean, do you think mccain and graham would have the troops to stop her if she does, and the president says today he hasn't made that determination yet, whether he's going to...
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the senior senator from south carolina, republican lindsey graham. senator, let's get right into it. you just heard the chairs of the intelligence committees on benghazi. bottom line point, did director petraeus call this terrorism from the get go? they say yes. they don't understand why the administration didn't call it the same two days later. how do you react? >> well, i think one of the reasons that susan rice told the story she did, if the truth came out a few weeks before the election, that our consulate in benghazi, libya, had been overrun by an al qaeda-sponsored militia, that destroys the thinking that al qaeda is dead, bin laden is dead. susan rice did not say it was the result of a mob spawned by a cairo. she said i want to remind the american people this president promised to go after bin laden, refocus on al qaeda. he got bin laden. al qaeda has been dismantled. and the truth of the matter nothing could have been further from the truth, and the story she told reinforced a political narrative helpful to the president. but disconnected fro
the senior senator from south carolina, republican lindsey graham. senator, let's get right into it. you just heard the chairs of the intelligence committees on benghazi. bottom line point, did director petraeus call this terrorism from the get go? they say yes. they don't understand why the administration didn't call it the same two days later. how do you react? >> well, i think one of the reasons that susan rice told the story she did, if the truth came out a few weeks before the...
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it's just a simple question about john mccain and lindsey graham and john mccain and lindsey graham, do you think they are crazy and you can answer yes or maybe. >> what i believe is that susan rice is an incredible person with a great deal of intelligence and integrity and ought to be taken for her word. i think it's really unfortunate for her. >> i don't think senators are crazy in my experience, so i've been theorizing this is about opening up the secretary of state job for john kerry, so if they then reopen a massachusetts senate seat r for scott brown. is that your sense of the game that's being played? >> i have no idea. you are much more mcvavalian thinking than 1 am. >>> coming up, we'll find out about ari melber and guess who's coming to dinner? mitt romney's last chance to get into the white house is coming up. [ male announcer ] we all make bad decisions. like say, gas station sushi. cheap is good. and sushi, good. but cheap sushi, not so good. it's like that super-low rate on not enough car insurance. pretty sketchy. ♪ and then there are the good decisions. like esuranc
it's just a simple question about john mccain and lindsey graham and john mccain and lindsey graham, do you think they are crazy and you can answer yes or maybe. >> what i believe is that susan rice is an incredible person with a great deal of intelligence and integrity and ought to be taken for her word. i think it's really unfortunate for her. >> i don't think senators are crazy in my experience, so i've been theorizing this is about opening up the secretary of state job for john...
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to the united nations susan rice came under fire from republican senators, senators john mccain and lindsey graham back at it trying to trump up the ben gansy roles. they took their shots and the president hit back. >> if senator mccain and others want to go after somebody, they should go after meand i'm happy to have that discuss with them. but for then to go after the u.n. ambassador, who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence she had received and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> that's loyalty to a staff nem. if looks could kill, the president's look would be a cruise missile. >> it was the most sustained anger, i think it will be the most sustained inc.er that we have seen and will see coming from this president in a display in a television news conference. now, there is no evidence the ambassador did anything wrong regarding the benz attacks. president obama is not about to let a member of his administration get drugged through the mud by the righties. he was also very calculating on his take on the scandal surrounding for
to the united nations susan rice came under fire from republican senators, senators john mccain and lindsey graham back at it trying to trump up the ben gansy roles. they took their shots and the president hit back. >> if senator mccain and others want to go after somebody, they should go after meand i'm happy to have that discuss with them. but for then to go after the u.n. ambassador, who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence she had...
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>> lindsey graham and john mccain are now proposing a special investigative committee to investigate the benghazi attack. other members say the senate can handle the job. >> budget negotiations are on hold this week as they head home for the thanksgiving holiday. they're optimistic about reaching a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. now house speaker nancy pelosi says she won't budge when it comes to tax cuts for the wealthy. that puts her at odds with john boehner. >> could you accept a deal that does not include tax rate increases for the wealthy? we've seen talk about a possible compromise that would leave rates the same but tax deductions for high income earners. is that something that's acceptable? >> no. >> not at all. >> the president made it clear in his campaign that there are not enough resources. what you described is a formula and a blueprint for hampering a future. you cannot go forward -- you have to cut some investments. if you cut too many, you are hampering growth, you are hampering education and investments in the future. >> even thousands of miles away it ap
>> lindsey graham and john mccain are now proposing a special investigative committee to investigate the benghazi attack. other members say the senate can handle the job. >> budget negotiations are on hold this week as they head home for the thanksgiving holiday. they're optimistic about reaching a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. now house speaker nancy pelosi says she won't budge when it comes to tax cuts for the wealthy. that puts her at odds with john boehner. >>...
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. >> here is senator lindsey graham of south carolina on norquist. here it is. >> i agree with grover we shouldn't raise rates but i think grover is wrong when it comes to we can't cap deductions and buy down debt. i wa nt to buy down debt and cut rates to create jobs. i will violate the pledge long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> does this mean you have to put medicaid, medicare on the table to get these folks to think your way. graham isn't going far enough. congressman tom cole, another republican, is willing to see what people wants. is this starting to crack? are we seeing a trend? >> democrats have pass the budget control act which cut spending by nearly $1 billion. with he were willing to support a compromise that would further reduce spending in exchange for revenues from the rich. we have already agreed to compromise and we agree we have to reduce debt and we have agreed to spending cuts. we will not negotiate the end to medicare. we will negotiate reforms and improvements to medicare
. >> here is senator lindsey graham of south carolina on norquist. here it is. >> i agree with grover we shouldn't raise rates but i think grover is wrong when it comes to we can't cap deductions and buy down debt. i wa nt to buy down debt and cut rates to create jobs. i will violate the pledge long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> does this mean you have to put medicaid, medicare on the table to get these folks to think...
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so i don't understand the argument though i think lindsey graham is also somebody that i know and is very serious and honorable. but i think it's getting political. i don't know if the issue is going to be -- if the president chooses to nominate her as secretary of state or senator kerry, what has also not been brought up there's a tradition for the u.s. senate to let an american president have who he wants or she wants as secretary of state. you know, now it's they're talking about blocking it and talking about other delaying tactics. i just think things need to cool down. the election's over. let's be bipartisan but especially in foreign policy. >> the governor brings up a good point, this is traditionally not something the president has to fight over. the president yesterday said, look, the election's over. almost as a precursor to, we need to get past this. this seems to be a way for frustrated republicans to wield some power over a choice that should be the president's to make. >> sure. you should be allowed traditionally to appoint your own team, right? there's a sort of conspi
so i don't understand the argument though i think lindsey graham is also somebody that i know and is very serious and honorable. but i think it's getting political. i don't know if the issue is going to be -- if the president chooses to nominate her as secretary of state or senator kerry, what has also not been brought up there's a tradition for the u.s. senate to let an american president have who he wants or she wants as secretary of state. you know, now it's they're talking about blocking it...
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we have to get beyond this sort of thing. >> john mccain and lindsey graham aren't beyond it. would you term them as being overzealous this week and out of bounds? what about their behavior as senators? they were ready to condemn the administration and susan rice before any testimony was heard. >> there were and as i said, it's still a political season. again, get over it. the democrats won. let's get on with the nation's business. you know, we have lost more diplomats than we have generals. that will tell you something about how dangerous it is to be a diplomat. ambassador ryan crocker, for whom i have infinite respect, made a comment yesterday. these people work in dangerous territory. that's not to say we shouldn't investigate the circumstances under which they get injured or lose their lives, but this is a dangerous job. george w. bush had 3,000 americans killed on his watch and we didn't even get to the commission that investigated him until 2004. and there was incompetence there and there was intelligence failure there, but we got beyond that. we need to get beyond this,
we have to get beyond this sort of thing. >> john mccain and lindsey graham aren't beyond it. would you term them as being overzealous this week and out of bounds? what about their behavior as senators? they were ready to condemn the administration and susan rice before any testimony was heard. >> there were and as i said, it's still a political season. again, get over it. the democrats won. let's get on with the nation's business. you know, we have lost more diplomats than we have...
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we have to get beyond this sort of thing. >> john mccain and lindsey graham aren't beyond it. would you term them as being overzealous this week and out of bounds? what about their behavior as senators? they were ready to condemn the administration and susan rice before any testimony was heard. >> there were and as i said, it's still a political season. again, get over it. the democrats won. let's get on with the nation's business. you know, we have lost more diplomats than we have generals. that will tell you something about how dangerous it is to be a diplomat. ambassador ryan crocker, for whom i have infinite respect, made a comment yesterday. these people work in dangerous territory. that's not to say we shouldn't investigate the circumstances under which they get injured or lose their lives, but this is a dangerous job. george w. bush had 3,000 americans killed on his watch and we didn't even get to the commission that investigated him until 2004. and there was incompetence there and there was intelligence failure there, but we got beyond that. we need to get beyond this,
we have to get beyond this sort of thing. >> john mccain and lindsey graham aren't beyond it. would you term them as being overzealous this week and out of bounds? what about their behavior as senators? they were ready to condemn the administration and susan rice before any testimony was heard. >> there were and as i said, it's still a political season. again, get over it. the democrats won. let's get on with the nation's business. you know, we have lost more diplomats than we have...
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we have to get beyond this sort of thing. >> john mccain and lindsey graham aren't beyond it. would you term them as being overzealous this week and out of bounds? what about their behavior as senators? they were ready to condemn the administration and susan rice before any testimony was heard. >> there were and as i said, it's still a political season. get over it. the democrats won. let's get on with the nation's business. you know, we have lost more diplomats than we have generals. that will tell you something about how dangerous it is to be a diplomat. ryan crocker for whom i had infinite respect made a comment yesterday. these people work in dangerous territory. that's not to say we shouldn't investigate the circumstances under which they get injured or lose their lives, but this is a dangerous job. george w. bush had 3,000 americans killed on his watch and we didn't even get to the commission that investigated him until 2004. and there was incompetence there and there was intelligence failure there, but we got beyond that. we need to get beyond this, because we have some
we have to get beyond this sort of thing. >> john mccain and lindsey graham aren't beyond it. would you term them as being overzealous this week and out of bounds? what about their behavior as senators? they were ready to condemn the administration and susan rice before any testimony was heard. >> there were and as i said, it's still a political season. get over it. the democrats won. let's get on with the nation's business. you know, we have lost more diplomats than we have...
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she was the person who did not deserve the diatribes that were coming from senators mccain and lindsey graham. i understand they're unhappiness and anger because christopher stevens, the slain ambassador, was a personal friend but susan rice, a qualified, talented woman, who clearly has done a great job at the united nations didn't deserve to be singled out. she was only doing what the white house communications operation told her to do on those sunday talk shows. let's see how this plays out and i don't think that senator mccain has the support in his own republican senate caucus to launch a filibuster. >> quickly before i let you go, fascinating "washington post" article speculating on the future of secretary of state hillary clinton and talked about how she has remade american diplomacy by visiting countries she didn't have to visit and championing smaller initiatives as well and includes this quote, the answer to the question of whether hillary clinton will run for president in 2016, whether she will seek a job with the most power to do the most good of all is another question f wh
she was the person who did not deserve the diatribes that were coming from senators mccain and lindsey graham. i understand they're unhappiness and anger because christopher stevens, the slain ambassador, was a personal friend but susan rice, a qualified, talented woman, who clearly has done a great job at the united nations didn't deserve to be singled out. she was only doing what the white house communications operation told her to do on those sunday talk shows. let's see how this plays out...
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he and lindsey graham. i think they are doing the fox and the fox fuelled hysteria about the attacks in benghazi. but this reminds me of the republican flight from reality, the post truth politics mitt romney engaged in. remember, he would travel around the country saying president obama did an apology tour traveling the world. this guy, senator mccain, keeps talking about the danger of america's light footprint. if you want to deal with substance in this and not just these unverifiable calls mccain has made about weakness and light footprint, i think we need to look squarely at u.s. foreign policy in the region. and what john mccain and lindsey graham are doing is a great disservice to america, because they're distracting us from confronting the extraordinary new challenges we face in north africa and in the middle east with this stuff, this partisan witch-hunt. and that flight from reality is at the heart of the current gop. >> you know, when president obama took office in 2009, the republicans were up ag
he and lindsey graham. i think they are doing the fox and the fox fuelled hysteria about the attacks in benghazi. but this reminds me of the republican flight from reality, the post truth politics mitt romney engaged in. remember, he would travel around the country saying president obama did an apology tour traveling the world. this guy, senator mccain, keeps talking about the danger of america's light footprint. if you want to deal with substance in this and not just these unverifiable calls...
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rice will sit down with senators john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. in recent days, senator mccain has softened his criticism as rice insists that she was relying on talking points from the intelligence community. last night, senator graham rejecting her defense but says he's open to today's meeting. >> she asked to meet with us and now we'll listen to what she has to say about her role in benghazi. the more i know about benghazi, the more upset i am that the consulate was even open on september 11th. when you look at the history and the reporting coming out of libya about the dangers, it should never have been open or heavily reinforced. after the attack, i think the story we were told about a spontaneous event caused by video where a mob turned into a riot is less credible than ever. >> she reportedly called the meeting. seems like a smart move. what do you think? >> well, i think it's a smart move for john mccain to take the meeting. they're boxed in. this is not a fight they want right now. it was a stupid fight to pick. they put themselves into a
rice will sit down with senators john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. in recent days, senator mccain has softened his criticism as rice insists that she was relying on talking points from the intelligence community. last night, senator graham rejecting her defense but says he's open to today's meeting. >> she asked to meet with us and now we'll listen to what she has to say about her role in benghazi. the more i know about benghazi, the more upset i am that the consulate was even...
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there will be a bunch of republicans led by john mccain and joe lieberman and lindsey graham who are going to argue for longer troop deployments. waiting to see what the conditions are on the ground. having more troops there than the administration wants and a big segment of the republican caucus that will not support that. and that, again, is the divide inside the republican caucus. ultimately the president is going to have to balance the risk of withdrawing troops faster against the goal of leaving afghanistan as stable and secure as possible. and whatever his decision is going to be, that's going to be his legacy. so that's going to be his responsibility. >> is there anybody else who's stepping up on the john mccain side of this? i mean, at this point john mccain is a noun and verb and don't cut and run. he's really -- i feel like his credibility on foreign policy issues is getting pretty wispy at this point. is there anybody else who's taken the place of him as he becomes less and less relevant? >> mark kirk, kelly ayotte, marco rubio. prepared to carry this water on the republic
there will be a bunch of republicans led by john mccain and joe lieberman and lindsey graham who are going to argue for longer troop deployments. waiting to see what the conditions are on the ground. having more troops there than the administration wants and a big segment of the republican caucus that will not support that. and that, again, is the divide inside the republican caucus. ultimately the president is going to have to balance the risk of withdrawing troops faster against the goal of...
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liar lindsey graham will continue to be invited on tv shows where that statement will not be called a lie. it may be challenged, but it will not be called a lie. liar lindsay graham, of course, has an open invitation to come on this program and retract his lie or try to get away with it again and see how that works out for him here. liar lindsey graham and john mccain are the same who had no problem for another named rice, after she failed miserably as george bush's national security adviser, after she and everyone else in the bush administration misread the intelligence on iraq's weapons of mass destruction, as it turned out nonexistent weapons of mass destruction programs. they had no problem voting her after she went on television and raised the specter of a mushroom cloud of an attack launched by iraq. no more dimented thing has ever been publicly said by a national security adviser, save for every word ever spoken by henry kissinger about vietnam. when they voted for condoleezza rice for secretary of state, they knew that everything condoleezza rice said about iraq on television
liar lindsey graham will continue to be invited on tv shows where that statement will not be called a lie. it may be challenged, but it will not be called a lie. liar lindsay graham, of course, has an open invitation to come on this program and retract his lie or try to get away with it again and see how that works out for him here. liar lindsey graham and john mccain are the same who had no problem for another named rice, after she failed miserably as george bush's national security adviser,...
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as we reported, tomorrow she will meet with three republican senators, john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly acting cia director mike morell will join her for those meetings. they have called ambassador rice a liar. they have attacked her integrity. tomorrow, as they sit there, isn't it interesting the acting director of the cia, the one who has all of the evidence, will be with her. i hope they get past the demogogary and i hope they remember that four people lost their lives. americans don't need politicking and posturing. we need the truth and we need to move on. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> hiding in history. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evenin>>> good evenin. i'm chris matthews in washington. let's start with this. republicans must think they own the white house. i say this as someone who has watched them before and after the election. from the heigh o
as we reported, tomorrow she will meet with three republican senators, john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly acting cia director mike morell will join her for those meetings. they have called ambassador rice a liar. they have attacked her integrity. tomorrow, as they sit there, isn't it interesting the acting director of the cia, the one who has all of the evidence, will be with her. i hope they get past the demogogary and i hope they remember that four people lost their lives. americans don't...
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lindsey graham actually gets this. the message that the republican party should be taking from this is not to how do we move farther to the right but how do you come up with a conservative agenda that actually is inclusive of more of the american people. consistently, i mean, that's a lot of the dog whistle politics we've heard in the last couple days. trying to appeal to a shrinking base. it doesn't work in a country like the united states anymore. >> whatever happens tomorrow, smart republicans realize this. they realize this year they have essentially tried to capture a bigger part of a shrinking electorate. a shrinking white male electorate. and they hope to win that way. they realize they can't possibly win national elections that way going forward. they're going to have to expand the party or they go the way of the wind. >> very quickly, karen. >> one other things i think the republicans may realize in the aftermath is all these voter suppression tactics have had the opposite effect. people have been more mobiliz
lindsey graham actually gets this. the message that the republican party should be taking from this is not to how do we move farther to the right but how do you come up with a conservative agenda that actually is inclusive of more of the american people. consistently, i mean, that's a lot of the dog whistle politics we've heard in the last couple days. trying to appeal to a shrinking base. it doesn't work in a country like the united states anymore. >> whatever happens tomorrow, smart...
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there was no committee of lindsey graham and john mccain. they don't run anything there. is it unusual to have the leader of the cia personally involved like this? >> it was remarkable to me. i described her on "nightly news" as her wing man. he was there to take the blame. and it did seem for an acting director of the cia to be put in that position rather extraordinary. he himself is under consideration to become the permanent cia director. there's a lot of cabinet shuffling that may take place. interesting people are talking about defense secretary as though the job was open. leon panetta might want to stay longer. and john kerry has not said he would be interested in that job. some said he would take it, but others closer to him say that's not the case. and no job has been offered. so this is -- let's just put it awkward. if she is nominated and they it fight this through, who is going to chair that committee? and that's john kerry. >> it's not quite krem linology because it's america, but it's getting closer. andrea mitchell, thank you so much. great to have you here.
there was no committee of lindsey graham and john mccain. they don't run anything there. is it unusual to have the leader of the cia personally involved like this? >> it was remarkable to me. i described her on "nightly news" as her wing man. he was there to take the blame. and it did seem for an acting director of the cia to be put in that position rather extraordinary. he himself is under consideration to become the permanent cia director. there's a lot of cabinet shuffling...
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mccain and lindsey graham said he will not support the nomination of ambassador rice if she's nominate. >> we will do what we can do block the nomination. >> i don't trust her. i thought she should know better. if she didn't snow better, she shouldn't be the voice of america. >> their chief complaint is they disqualified herself several days after the benghazi on a slew of shows, including "meet the press." >> our current assessment is what happened in benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction of what had transpired hours before in cairo. almost a copycat of the demonstrations at our facility in cairo. >> at his news conference, a visibly angry obama fired back. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi, and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received, and to besmirch her representation is outrageous. >> well, mccain didn't want to have the president to have the last word. and he raced to the senate fl
mccain and lindsey graham said he will not support the nomination of ambassador rice if she's nominate. >> we will do what we can do block the nomination. >> i don't trust her. i thought she should know better. if she didn't snow better, she shouldn't be the voice of america. >> their chief complaint is they disqualified herself several days after the benghazi on a slew of shows, including "meet the press." >> our current assessment is what happened in benghazi...
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lindsey graham, saxby chambless talking about a tax revenue. medicare, medicaid, perhaps we could have some meaningful entitlement reform. that's the good news, that there seems to be this idea that we can work out a big partisan deal. we both know taxes going up. entitlement, benefits going down. however, when we get into the bad news is that while this is all fine and dandy coming out of the cincinnati, toure. the real negotiations are going to happen between president obama and house speaker john boehner. it's a lot different animal than the senate gop conference. so that's the sort of bad news. while we hear a lot of this going forward and it seems to be pos tish, when you get down to the nitty-gritty and aides and those chose to president obama, there's not been a lot of movement on the taxive of what to do. republicans don't want to touch that. democrats want that. they feel they have a mandate from the election. that is the issue we said is going to be the linchpin for the last three months. it continues to be there. there is no movement
lindsey graham, saxby chambless talking about a tax revenue. medicare, medicaid, perhaps we could have some meaningful entitlement reform. that's the good news, that there seems to be this idea that we can work out a big partisan deal. we both know taxes going up. entitlement, benefits going down. however, when we get into the bad news is that while this is all fine and dandy coming out of the cincinnati, toure. the real negotiations are going to happen between president obama and house speaker...
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and you never heard john mccain or senator lindsey graham back then. in fact, they defended her, and that was nothing at all like what's going on with ambassador rice. i do think it's unfortunate. the priorities here should be to find out what happened, bring those terrorists to justice, and make sure it never happens again. and, unfortunately, republicans are still act iing as though wee in the middle of a campaign and that's unfortunate. and incidents like this you r e rarely see them immediately politicized like this has and i think that's not a healthy way to conduct this investigation. >> all right, real quickly. i want to jump on to the other great talkers i have today 0. susan, to "the new york times" report that some inside the romney campaign are blaming new jersey governor chris christie the top romney aides say the governor's contributors there are, quote, furious with christie because of the fact that he was able to buoy up president obama because of the sandy response. >> get over it. that's not what brought down governor romney. that's no
and you never heard john mccain or senator lindsey graham back then. in fact, they defended her, and that was nothing at all like what's going on with ambassador rice. i do think it's unfortunate. the priorities here should be to find out what happened, bring those terrorists to justice, and make sure it never happens again. and, unfortunately, republicans are still act iing as though wee in the middle of a campaign and that's unfortunate. and incidents like this you r e rarely see them...
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lindsey graham has been someone who has been pushing immigration reform within the republican party. but to your point, when i was running for congress, we found immigration in my district. it wasn't people's number one issue, but there was very, very high emotion around it. and the other concern from a strategist standpoint, if you allow a path to citizenship, then you have more latino voter who is can vote against you. so that's another major sticking point. >> it will be a numbers game. thank you as always. >> when a lot of people vote, that's been a problem for them. >> that's true. turnout, going to the polls. stop that. thank you to my friends krystal ball and ari melber. >>> coming up, when voters dismissed paul ryan you might have thought he'd be the last man on earth john boehner would choose to negotiate the fiscal cliff. you would be wrong. >>> and somebody thinks sarah palin is the answer to the republican party's problems in 2016 because she's hot and blue collar. no seriously. thank you, somebody. >>> and president obama joins secretary of state hillary clinton for the
lindsey graham has been someone who has been pushing immigration reform within the republican party. but to your point, when i was running for congress, we found immigration in my district. it wasn't people's number one issue, but there was very, very high emotion around it. and the other concern from a strategist standpoint, if you allow a path to citizenship, then you have more latino voter who is can vote against you. so that's another major sticking point. >> it will be a numbers...
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this is a personal vendetta -- >> so you think mccain is being -- mccain and people like lindsey graham, mccain, who had his own daughter attacked, was accused of having an illegitimate child when he adopted a young girl from south asia, you're saying that mccain's being driven by racial prejudice here? >> there is no other way to look at this because look at her foreign policy and, by the way, look at what john mccain said about condi rice's nomination. we're running this story on the front page of the msnbc website right now. back then four years -- eight years ago, john mccain said the people -- the elements who were questioning condi rice's credentials, they were engaged with bitterness, they needed to move on. why has he changed his tune? what is it about susan rice? and the answer is there aren't any good foreign policy explanations for it. >> let me go to jay on this question. jay, what do you read as the issues here for the president and his personal decision? it's a huge decision he has to make in the space of a week now it looks like. >> it is a huge decision. whomever he nomi
this is a personal vendetta -- >> so you think mccain is being -- mccain and people like lindsey graham, mccain, who had his own daughter attacked, was accused of having an illegitimate child when he adopted a young girl from south asia, you're saying that mccain's being driven by racial prejudice here? >> there is no other way to look at this because look at her foreign policy and, by the way, look at what john mccain said about condi rice's nomination. we're running this story on...
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over the week, i watched lindsey graham on the sunday show. and when he compared this to iran contra which was crimes, felonies, as opposed to susan rice who has said she was given bad information she repeated it and, you know, it's -- and to compare these two, it's just really bizarre. >> joe, were there two different lanes being run here? one to maybe discredit susan rice and any potential nomination she might receive to the president's cabinet to replace secretary of state hillary clinton? but then also to make this reference to some type of cover-up happening prior to the reelection? >> well, certainly, they're trying to do both of those things. but in combining them, i think they're weakening any political attack they have. now what they've done is they've made what happened in benghazi a referendum on susan rice, where now when you look at the facts susan has come and explained where -- what she knew and how the statements were made. and that's been cleared up. and what's getting obscured here are the real questions about benghazi. so as
over the week, i watched lindsey graham on the sunday show. and when he compared this to iran contra which was crimes, felonies, as opposed to susan rice who has said she was given bad information she repeated it and, you know, it's -- and to compare these two, it's just really bizarre. >> joe, were there two different lanes being run here? one to maybe discredit susan rice and any potential nomination she might receive to the president's cabinet to replace secretary of state hillary...
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it's interesting that so many senators such as john mccain and lindsey graham oppose her. policy-wise she's closer to them in terms of policy and intervention and human rights than, say, senator john kerry, for example. >> amanamanda, you referenced t press conference where the president went to bat for susan rice. let's actually take a listen to them. >> for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who this nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and to besmurch her reputation is outrageous. when they gt after the u.n. ambassador apparently because they think she's an easy target, then they've got a problem with me. >> so, first of all, bes is suhsh is great word. prior to that press conference i was am bif lent to secretary of state. i like john kerry and sue glan rice. after i saul the president go to bat for her and point out how outrageous these attacks on her having, i am more inclined to want to see susan rice in that position, which also leads me to the conclusion. john mccain, if his ultimate goem w
it's interesting that so many senators such as john mccain and lindsey graham oppose her. policy-wise she's closer to them in terms of policy and intervention and human rights than, say, senator john kerry, for example. >> amanamanda, you referenced t press conference where the president went to bat for susan rice. let's actually take a listen to them. >> for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who this nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on...
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i want to read you something that senator lindsey graham said and i know you're one of the new three amigos with mccain, graham and you do a lot of releases togeth together. senator graham said this about the republicans. quote, if we lose this election, there's only one explanation -- demographics. is he right? >> well, i think senator graham has a very important point. i think governor romney is running a really good campaign. there's tremendous hume. look at the record of this president. so certainly we're going to have to re-assess where the demographics are for the republican party. but i feel very confident about this election because we think about the economy, the did debt, who has the plan to turn this around and the enthusiasm is on the republican side right now, chuck. >> and when you look at the final move in new hampshire, tell me this, you are watching the state of new hampshire. what should we look for tuesday night that will tell you which way new hampshire is going to move? forget anything else, is it a specific town or county? what do you watch when you try to see i
i want to read you something that senator lindsey graham said and i know you're one of the new three amigos with mccain, graham and you do a lot of releases togeth together. senator graham said this about the republicans. quote, if we lose this election, there's only one explanation -- demographics. is he right? >> well, i think senator graham has a very important point. i think governor romney is running a really good campaign. there's tremendous hume. look at the record of this...